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#1 2010-03-09 22:25:41

rita
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Stop Being Scared!!!

Well done everyone at gap but I think that we are to complacent
what about a protest at the labour conference in september because -im sick of the way i have been treated   the trouble is were all to
scared----    were scared of the social services ----were scared of the kids
being taken off us --were scared to protest--were scared to stand up and be counted--but its about time we stop being scared its about
time we stould up for our rights    how dare they treat us they way they do --we hold the whip hand --if we all gave the kids back to the SS the services would crumble overnight--
----  how dare they not pay us what we are worth How dare they decide our fates and the fates of our children -how dare they not give us our rights and fair pay--- im 100 percent behind linda and  gap -

i am ready to try and change the law   ----- even if i have to got and throw eggs at them all and get arrested or chain myself to railings ---does it matter ---they cant arrest us all-- im bloody fed up of ---hypocritical---- double talking --two faced officials --who are trying to run my life---is there anyone else who will stand beside me im sick of being a doormat i want ---no I DEMAND to be treated FAIRLY -- surely theres something radical we could do im sick sick sick of them walking all over us-- and patting us on the heads saying well done carry on--and there stupid website and government paid for support groups WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE KIDDING !!!! NOT ME!!!
                                        dont even feel better after this rant!!

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#2 2010-03-10 07:38:23

sandra ingham
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

well said rita,you are thinking just like .i,m fed up too.yep,we are the mugs that have to struggle from week to week.i,m in my house 24/7.oppps i tell a lie i go out tuesday/thursday shopping,thats a total of 5 hrs a week.i,m sick of going with out and telling my g/son i can,t afford for him to go on school trips,even to take him for a day out cripples me.i have been down every avenue to ask for help but the answer is always no,i have my g/son on ro,or what they call private arrangement.yes s.s are having a field day passing children over and then walking away.our kids deserve to live happy and content,didn,t they suffer enough before they was placed with us.we all try our best to give our all to the kids,it,s difficult when we are constantly stressed.i have been in meetings where s.s are telling foster carers,who do a good job,what they can have to make life easier for the kids,like 500 quid set aside for kids who show an interest in football,dance lessons ect.I have to copper up 10 quid a month so as my g/son can play in a local footy team,everyone looks at me when i cry when he scores a goal,they don,t realize what he,s been through.yep,all the support groups are good but that won,t help anyone like us.I would gladly support anyone who wants to stand up to s.s.I can,t afford to go to London and the break in skegness .i don,t feel any better after this rant..........on a lighter note,summer will soon be here at least we can get out doors,i have a lovely bunch of daffodils in my kitchen window lol,i pinched them from a run down house.

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#3 2010-03-10 07:39:34

sandra ingham
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

well said rita,you are thinking just like .i,m fed up too.yep,we are the mugs that have to struggle from week to week.i,m in my house 24/7.oppps i tell a lie i go out tuesday/thursday shopping,thats a total of 5 hrs a week.i,m sick of going with out and telling my g/son i can,t afford for him to go on school trips,even to take him for a day out cripples me.i have been down every avenue to ask for help but the answer is always no,i have my g/son on ro,or what they call private arrangement.yes s.s are having a field day passing children over and then walking away.our kids deserve to live happy and content,didn,t they suffer enough before they was placed with us.we all try our best to give our all to the kids,it,s difficult when we are constantly stressed.i have been in meetings where s.s are telling foster carers,who do a good job,what they can have to make life easier for the kids,like 500 quid set aside for kids who show an interest in football,dance lessons ect.I have to copper up 10 quid a month so as my g/son can play in a local footy team,everyone looks at me when i cry when he scores a goal,they don,t realize what he,s been through.yep,all the support groups are good but that won,t help anyone like us.I would gladly support anyone who wants to stand up to s.s.I can,t afford to go to London and the break in skegness .i don,t feel any better after this rant..........on a lighter note,summer will soon be here at least we can get out doors,i have a lovely bunch of daffodils in my kitchen window lol,i pinched them from a run down house.

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#4 2010-03-10 10:43:23

rita
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

Hi sandra Your right we are the biggest mugs going  when I got the kids back after their mum had run off with them  my money had all been stopped and i had to claim again this was end of november I was still waiting for emergency payments at Christmas!!!! didnt get anything till 5th january if it hadnt been for gap we wouldnt have had anything no food or stuff for the kids presents clothes  for Christmas!!!  Just nothing it was like here they are ...you sort it  -the SS just weren't interested. Im just about sick of the whole rotten system--and even if we get the allowance will it be fair--look at the mess they've made of it in Scotland ----- the kinship carers are still running round --petitioning---campaigning---- so when does it end and government run support clubs to keep us quiet ...so that we post on their sites and were all kept tidy and neat in a box ....ranting and raving on sites wont get us anywhere we need to rant and rave in the public eye  .. lindas done petitions walks lobbying wheres it got gap !!! still in the same position after 7 years!!!! so we got to do something that will catch the public eye that will make people sit up and take notice im gonna go to manchester when they have the conference in sept  and do something!!!!!!

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#5 2010-03-11 07:22:42

sandra ingham
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

rita,i went blindly for r.o,infact s.s pushed me,little did i know that it would be case closed.wish i had of know about g.a.p back then.i got in touch with linda some months later and she was my saving grace.i didn,t realize how many g/parents there was out there.yep,everything sickens me,MPs are not much help,well not in my area.Every child matters is a joke,another paper to keep us quiet.I didn,t know about conference in sept ,will definately go.I met a lady on fb,a friend of a friend,only weeks ago found out she had been a s/w,she now a childrens guardian,she doesn,t agree with us being paid,she said us g/p have it easy as some of the cases she deals with are eye openers.She thinks our kids have been handed to us with ribbons on.What chance have we got and this is what we are up against.

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#6 2010-03-11 11:02:17

sally
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

Dear Sandra and rita We dont have any chance I just left a post for Laura who had been to a meeting with ed ball and I said they have been promising all the same things over the last 8 years that I have been a carer.. yet six grandparents groups including gap proposed an early day motion for grandparents rights and out of 656 MPs only 53 signed it. you see they say anything to shut us up they pay for grandparents association who then make support groups and sometimes have big meetings so that the carers think something is being done but its just to keep us neat and tidy and also to divide us.
the FRG sites the same just let of steam on their forum and were not doing it on the streets were not getting the publicity we need. I know this sounds far fetched but its a conspiracy of the government to keep us quiet and let us think things are being done
I have researched lots of these support groups and except for a very rare few they all have been funded by frg or grandparents plus or the grandparents association or community grants ... and where does most of the  funding come from Wsurprise surprise.. the government  When ed ball talked about the green paper thats all he did do talk its an election ploy .. then if they get in for another four years they will just fob us off. I have campaigned with Linda and the custody minefield and the only thing I think will change in he future is contact with your grandchildren and also grandparents to be given more rights in care proceedings this is the issue of the moment with bob geldolf helping and fronting it so I think that may happen but us >.. no I think we have a long way to go .. and even if we get allowances it will end up like scotland if you have an ro you wont get and it will all depend on the council how nuch although they got their kinship crers allowances they are still having to jump through hoops. The green paper said we would have to have training --so the 70-80 year olds wont do it so will miss out  The social services are a closed shop most councils have kinship care policies in place but your never told about them all their interested in is for you to get an RO so they can close the case. Radical campaigning is the only way and good publicity I think the idea of a book with stories in is a good idea because it can be sent in one swoop to every mp every newspaper and tv stations some of them will pick up on it. I also think that when the politicians have their yearly conferences we should be there with placards etc make a fuss ..petitions havent worked (thats another thing Petition on line so your not making a fuss your not walking the streets getting signatures informing thousands of people about our issues your not bringing it to the public or press eyes its once again a closed thing just go on line and sign and if you get over 500 signatures we will send you a reply) its keeping everything quiet and in a box and we need to break out of it . look at the publicity fathers got when they dressed as superman and climbed big ben or something im not saying I could do that but...........maybe....... Sally

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#7 2010-03-11 11:34:53

joyce
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

Hi rita , sally and sandra you are all so right  everything  is a ploy to keep us quiet... so is giving some carers money and having lots of different carers like guardians and people with ROs and kinship foster carers they all get different allowances so the ones that have got wont "rock the boat" its ""a divided we conquer tactic"" different rules for different areas
I know that gap is campaigning for one allowance the same all over the country paid by government and not left to the discretion of the individual councils also for a care package to be put in place and a grant paid when a child comes to you.. its bloody simple but they just dont get it do they?? 
gap are the only group that have supported me in many many ways and yet all the campaigning that linda does will not benefit her as her grandkids are all grown .. and she wont accept any money..... i was there when they offered her a grant and she told them that she wouldnt be bought..... and they could stick it (my words) she said it more posh ......yet i know that she is just dead ordinary and does not have lots of money,but she cares very deeply about us and walks the extra mile for all of us.
I think as well having to many groups especially lately doesnt help we should try and belong to just one central campaign group like gap and support it yet still have other groups in pace but still all belong to one does that make sense then we can write en mass and campaign together with  one goal in mind...  and yes your right epetitions keep us neat and tidy and hidden the only ones that see then are those that are interested parties its not for the general public I can remember getting written signatures years ago we went all over differnt towns and cities and got over 6 thousand yet epetitions average abot 800 whats that going to do !!! get a reply thats the same reply as the petition before and the petition before.... what we also need are some well known names behind us we shold write to some of the grumpy old women and ask them to join us or write something  stars and well known people get the medias attention lokk at the custody minefield they got bob geldof so we should put our heads together what about writing to obamas wife the usa have the same issues or maggie thatcher any ideas ????/ I will try anything and im sure you will and at the end of the day william wilberforce and just a couple of his mates abolished slaverey ( although it did take him years) so i am sure that just three or four people really putting there thinking caps on could really change and improve our circumstances let me know what you all think  Love Jenny

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#8 2010-03-11 12:02:02

Jeff Bowler
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

Wow! the revolution is here! iam organising a walk/march in June and will try to host a national conference in July to get Kinship Carers who really do want to change the system and not just sit and moan.There are already enough support groupos out there what we need now is a genuine "get off your knees get off your arse" action group with national backing who will take on all comers and win. I want to be part of that kind of group who else does?

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#9 2010-03-11 12:52:29

Jeff Roe
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

Dear All my name is Jeff and I live in Blackpool although I am not a carer I am a supporter of gap and to me gap is the best campaign group to get behind as they are not tied to anyone.
I think that we need well known  patrons we need to look at which famous people have been brought up by grandparents then write to them
re jeffs walk and also re gap  If we are lucky we could get a famous personality on board to start the walk (publicity) and if we could get one to meet the  walkers to hand the petition in like bob geldof or esther ranzen (i think she was brought up by gran) it would be amazing publicity.

I am 100% behind gap and its independent stance. And I will definitely be in Manchester with a bag of rotten fruit but we have to keep this quiet or we will be arrested before the event !!! and if labour has won the election all the better as it will be their first conference (Lots of cameras and press)
            even if there are only 4 5 or 6 people it can still make big news so lets go for it   keep in touch  Jeff Roe

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#10 2010-03-11 16:26:03

sandra ingham
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

Hi again all,agreeing with all thats been said,why should we sit back and listen to the crap any longer.All of the new sites that have suddenly appeared are making me dizzy,and i think we should all stick together,otherwise we will loose the impact.We deserve what is rightfully ours.yep,sitting back moaning won,t get us anywhere.I am ready for anything,lets get off our backsides and do something.I am fully behind linda and g.a.p and admire her for her spirit and her endless campaign.what would happen if we all turned up at s.s with ALL the kids.????????????????????

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#11 2010-05-15 02:08:36

miranda
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Re: Stop Being Scared!!!

To Jeff

Go for it Jeff. I'd like to know if you're going through newcastle or gateshead en route? If so I'll be there to show support on the way, I will walk with you banner in hand, no problem,

Best Wishes,

Maria
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